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p.lewis ![]() Welding Master ![]() ![]() Joined: Oct/05/2009 Location: Greater Detroit Status: Offline Points: 296 |
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Does anybody do anything above and beyond a general interest meeting to recruit new team members? |
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asims ![]() Welding Master ![]() Joined: Apr/07/2009 Location: Tucson Status: Offline Points: 184 |
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We always go into the freshmen classes and give a presentation. Often times they will even have a dedicated "club day" in class just for this. There is also a new student welcome the Engineering college puts on where we set up a booth with the car and hand out flyers with info and meeting times. Our former team captain was also an RA and it always seemed like about half his floor always showed up to meetings, at least at the beginning.
Between these activities and word of mouth we generally get a good number of new people. |
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Andrew Sims
University of Arizona |
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blue2kss ![]() Welding Master ![]() ![]() Joined: Dec/23/2008 Location: USF Status: Offline Points: 169 |
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We always went to all new student orientations. I remember the ones over summer it was all we could do to make it to the morning orientations after most nights hitting the kegerator and talking about the freaking shop.
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Dustin Bride
University of South Florida SAE Alumni/Consultant Mechanical Engineer - Naval Surface Warfare Center, Marine Corps. Counter IED Development |
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adrive7 ![]() Baja Godfather ![]() ![]() Joined: Oct/19/2008 Location: Lancaster, CA Status: Offline Points: 711 |
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Our situation was similar to Arizona. We never had much trouble getting a lot of people interested in the first meeting, or even the second.
Keeping them beyond that however was a problem I couldn't solve during my 4 years on the team.
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-Joe
Chief Organizer, Baja California 2016, 2017, 2019 Ohio State Baja 2005-2009 Co-Host, Science... Sort Of http://www.sciencesortof.com |
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blue2kss ![]() Welding Master ![]() ![]() Joined: Dec/23/2008 Location: USF Status: Offline Points: 169 |
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You guys aren't the only ones. Once people figure out it requires work and dedication and its not just driving the cars they turn away pretty quickly. We have tried all sorts of tricks and methods of retention and it was always the same story. Seems to be a common denominator amongst teams
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Dustin Bride
University of South Florida SAE Alumni/Consultant Mechanical Engineer - Naval Surface Warfare Center, Marine Corps. Counter IED Development |
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asims ![]() Welding Master ![]() Joined: Apr/07/2009 Location: Tucson Status: Offline Points: 184 |
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We find its generally good to have new people do a little work on the cars (generally repairing damage from comp :p ) followed by a driving event. This lets them see that it takes work to make the cars run, without making them wait 2 semesters for much gratification. We also do shop organization days and teaching workshops, which helps people become more comfortable coming in to the shop.
We definitely get the people who don't care to put in the time, but if you can give them a quick reward for a little work, it does help retention. |
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Andrew Sims
University of Arizona |
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AndyRIT ![]() Organizer ![]() Joined: Nov/11/2008 Location: Sheboygan, WI Status: Offline Points: 193 |
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We did have a hard time getting new students at RIT for a couple years, a while ago. We then started making a huge effort; posting flyers in the dorms, freshman club day, participating in monthly club day, posting flyers, class presentations, etc.
During the first couple of weeks we would do small training stuff on the lathe and mill, building random stuff, taking apart the cars and putting them back together a couple of times. A couple driving events (only senior team members driving) We usual get about 40 students the first couple of weeks then drops down to between 5 and 10 by the end of the year who are quality. For the dedicated few that stick around, we usual let them drive in Feb./Mar. usually after a snowstorm with an older car.
![]() I am not sure if the team has added anything else but this seemed to work for the 2 years I was team manager.
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RIT Baja SAE Alumni 04'-09'
RIT Baja Team Manager 06'-08' 2010 RIT Track builder 2011 CAT/IL Comp Team Leader 2012 Wis vol 2013 RIT Track Builder Diesel Calibration Engineer-Kohler Engines |
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dillon_b12 ![]() Baja Godfather ![]() ![]() Joined: Nov/15/2008 Status: Offline Points: 781 |
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In my experience, there isn't much you can do to make someone want to be there. Most of our quality members had past experience in working on something whether it was cars, lawnmowers, etc... and are addicted to it.
It's very hard to create this from complete scratch. |
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Bi-Brow ![]() Welding Master ![]() ![]() Joined: Apr/05/2009 Location: Batesville, IN Status: Offline Points: 102 |
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Insert shameless pitch: As it turns out Midnight Mayhem takes place at the beginning of the Fall semester, allowing teams to do this same kind of work to get recruits fired up and get a taste of competition. (Although Arizona is kind of far) I guarantee that any newb will get excited for at least a week after the race. Now when it comes time to the universal problem of keeping them around I would love to know the secrets. Edited by Bi-Brow - Jul/21/2010 at 12:44am |
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Cummins XPI Pump Development Engineer
2012 Midnight Mayhem Coordinator 2008-2010 UofL Baja Captain 2011 Powertrain |
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p.lewis ![]() Welding Master ![]() ![]() Joined: Oct/05/2009 Location: Greater Detroit Status: Offline Points: 296 |
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I think people stick around if they have fun and they think the project is worthwhile. I think it is OK that many of the new recruits drop out and decide it isn't something they want to do. Your job is to make sure they understand what the payoff is for 9 months of hard and sometimes boring work... 72+ hours of awesome competition! This event isn't for everybody, but those of us who do it definitely love it -- most people might not be like us.
One of our new recruits from last year is a Junior and had a better idea of what the club is when he joined, but he remarked that it takes a competition for new members to see what Baja really is. He suggested going to a non-sanctioned race in the fall or winter to make sure we follow up our recruitment efforts immediately with this experience. New members see the race, see the cars we're competing against, and start thinking "man, we should put in a ton of work to make our car perform like that car, and look professional and pretty like that other car, and to drive our car expertly like that that guy from that other school, etc."
What is Baja? Everybody has a blurb on their team website trying to explain the competition and what their team does, but most new members need to get immersed in it to really understand.
Don't forget that you're recruiting new members who're going to spend more time with you than your friends and family -- most will become your friends, and in most ways Baja teams can be a family too. The social aspect of the event is important too.
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dillon_b12 ![]() Baja Godfather ![]() ![]() Joined: Nov/15/2008 Status: Offline Points: 781 |
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I really enjoyed Baja from the time I joined even before I went to a race, but going to Ocala to watch is what really got me hooked. Nothing you can do will explain the experiences of going to a competition, the relief of passing tech after spending your life making your car, watching a land rush start, etc...
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Rob71zilla ![]() Welding Master ![]() ![]() Joined: Feb/09/2009 Location: Utica, NY Status: Offline Points: 324 |
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I counldn't agree more. The only thing better than watching a land-rush start is being in middle of one!
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Robbie
Former Team Captain SUNY Institute of Technology Current Engineer for Remington Arms A Redline a day keeps the carbon away. |
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LongBeach_1 ![]() Bolt Sorter ![]() Joined: Apr/21/2010 Location: Long Beach, CA Status: Offline Points: 16 |
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To answer the first question, NO. Being involved in Baja for five years, the only thing you can do is use the sales pitch that BAJA or and SAE for that matter is amazing work experience. But, from my knowledge give me 4 to 5 knowledgable and experienced members and we will produce a competitve car, as for the new members they will learn the ropes as GOOD AS YOU TEACH THEM!!!
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Joseph Solomon
CSULB Racing Design Lead / Captain Badges? We don't need no stinking badges. |
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S&Tminer baja ![]() Milling Master ![]() ![]() Joined: Jul/27/2010 Location: Rolla, MO Status: Offline Points: 46 |
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We're going to try holding small workshops aimed at new members taught by old members. Informal things where an experienced member will request x amount of money to supply each interested member with materials and then he will step by step lead them in making something out of fiberglass or aluminum or wire up something etc. Then the new members get something to keep that they made and also begin to learn a skill. We're hoping that if we space these out right, there will always be sopmething for members to look forward to and keep their interest. Let you know how that goes...
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-Carl Lacy
S&T Miner Baja SAE Jaded Old Consultant/Frame Design Team Captain 2009-2011 Public Relations 2008-2010 Missouri S&T; Rolla, MO |
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eyeballumbrella ![]() Bolt Sorter ![]() Joined: Nov/16/2011 Status: Offline Points: 1 |
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We drive our old cars around campus a lot. This allows students who don't know about the team to see our car in action. We often will drive up and down flights of stairs and hand out flyers to people who are interested. We also make presentations in classes that are similar to our subject such as machine design classes and IC Engines.
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BroncoX ![]() Milling Master ![]() Joined: May/29/2011 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 87 |
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Seems like we do something similar to most teams here. Last year we had pretty bad organization and we were only able to bring on one new member! This year we changed things up alot by attending orientations over summer, setting up for engineering club days and doing presentations for freshmen engineering classes. We had a lot more interest this year so to keep everyone interested and bring those up to speed that know nothing about vehicles or our car, we decided to have weekly presentations about each subsystem so when they come to the shop and see it on the car they have a better understanding and can ask questions.
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Cal Poly Pomona
Bronco Racing |
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OctoberSky ![]() Welding Master ![]() ![]() Joined: May/20/2009 Location: Los Angeles Status: Offline Points: 123 |
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Same story here; we found that by having weekly design meetings where we talk about subsystems for both baja and general use, we get a lot more committed members. Something about having a set time for a couple of hours a week gets people more motivated to show up rather than just telling them when our shop hours are. It's definitely taken quite a bit of organization to research and set up the presentations, but it's been good for veteran members, the newbies, and future leadership.
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UCLA Racing
2010-2012 Captain "we'll never win mini baja" -Cheddar |
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