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T Fears MS&T
Bolt Sorter Joined: Aug/15/2011 Location: Rolla Mo Status: Offline Points: 14 |
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The main difference was that welding A sucked balls. The welder B was a bad as* mother trucker. Welder A has a really ugly g/f too. Thats probably what did it.
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Rob71zilla
Welding Master Joined: Feb/09/2009 Location: Utica, NY Status: Offline Points: 324 |
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Could it have been the location of the welds as well?
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Robbie
Former Team Captain SUNY Institute of Technology Current Engineer for Remington Arms A Redline a day keeps the carbon away. |
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Red_Beard
Organizer Joined: May/14/2009 Location: Bellingham, WA Status: Offline Points: 269 |
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Probably not... The G/F part is what did it. |
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SDSM&T 09-10 Team Lead
2nd & 9th Baja West Project Engineer Matrix Service - Bellingham, WA |
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S&Tminer baja
Milling Master Joined: Jul/27/2010 Location: Rolla, MO Status: Offline Points: 46 |
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There were several actual differences. Welder A didn't know a lot about how to set up a welder, which led to argon problems and nasty welds, but the problem was only made worse by tubes that weren't cleaned before welding. Often, had problems with "booger welds" (welds that were too cold, and 3 dimensional). Welder B sought training and solved the gas problems, and made sure to clean up joints before welding, and used appropriate heat.
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-Carl Lacy
S&T Miner Baja SAE Jaded Old Consultant/Frame Design Team Captain 2009-2011 Public Relations 2008-2010 Missouri S&T; Rolla, MO |
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Purduebaja
Welding Master Joined: Sep/19/2010 Status: Offline Points: 137 |
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The chassis as of today, the strap was used to make it level while we fill in welds and no we are not using that seat, its just a placeholder. There have been various occurrences of team members walking around with it stuck to them. That what happens when your chassis lead picks out the seat and weights 50 lbs less than you.
Edited by Purduebaja - Feb/24/2012 at 12:47am |
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Purduebaja
Welding Master Joined: Sep/19/2010 Status: Offline Points: 137 |
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Anyone use photosynth before? This isn't a very good example because of the order I took the images in, but its worth a look. Maybe we can get more of these up so people can "walk around" each others baja shops.
http://photosynth.net/view.aspx?cid=bc7a2ddf-a7ba-45c6-8e2f-2b3e30c1d76b&m=false&i=0:0:16&c=-1.59918:-0.559658:0.199164&z=446.022152259544&d=2.74598943091819:-2.32762333626677:-2.30606507016437&p=0:0&t=False
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abenn
Milling Master Joined: Mar/15/2010 Location: Boston, MA Status: Offline Points: 70 |
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Made some progress this weekend and got the rear suspension tacked in.
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Andy Benn
Northeastern University Baja SAE http://www.facebook.com/nubaja http://www.numotorsports.com |
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T Fears MS&T
Bolt Sorter Joined: Aug/15/2011 Location: Rolla Mo Status: Offline Points: 14 |
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Swingarm I guess? We have never ran one. USF is my favorite swingarm car. It would be the only reason I would ever go with one having seen how well it worked for them.
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abenn
Milling Master Joined: Mar/15/2010 Location: Boston, MA Status: Offline Points: 70 |
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Yup we've always run a swingarm and we've been around since 2000. It's done fairly well for us actually, several top ten finishes. We had quite a camaraderie with USF for years since we were the only teams to run a swing arm and a manual tranny. However we are the only team to run handlebars...
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Andy Benn
Northeastern University Baja SAE http://www.facebook.com/nubaja http://www.numotorsports.com |
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T Fears MS&T
Bolt Sorter Joined: Aug/15/2011 Location: Rolla Mo Status: Offline Points: 14 |
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Handle bars.... ehhhhh....I would be lying if I said they dont seem like a good idea. I just dont like them becuase, to me, it totally defeats the purpose of the fictional market. It makes it even more like a 4 wheeler. I just think its more fun with a steering wheel but I wouldnt be hard to convince into admitting there is probably alot of good attributes to that sort of setup.
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Soccerdan7
Organizer Joined: Sep/22/2010 Location: CA Status: Offline Points: 780 |
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I have always liked the handlebar cars from NU but we would never go away from our carbon steering wheel. The low travel ratio required for handle bars just wouldn't feel right in our cockpit.
Also, are you guys going to go independent in the rear anytime soon? The USF and TTU swingarm glory days are long gone and although they are simple and effective, I don't think a dependent suspension is capable of beating the likes of Laval and FEI type cars.
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Danny
Cornell (fall'07 - spring'12) Former Captain / MEng / that guy with all the carbon 10 races, 7 top ten's, 2 overall wins |
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abenn
Milling Master Joined: Mar/15/2010 Location: Boston, MA Status: Offline Points: 70 |
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Our ratio is about 1:1 so it's real easy to go from lock to lock. That being said yes we do have to make our cockpit a little wider to accommodate handle bars instead of a steering wheel.
An IRS has been in our thoughts for a couple years and just might be the next thing. But for this year in terms of the rear suspension we optimized our swingarm geometry and shed a bunch of unsprung weight so it should handle a little better.
Edited by abenn - Feb/29/2012 at 8:09am |
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Andy Benn
Northeastern University Baja SAE http://www.facebook.com/nubaja http://www.numotorsports.com |
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CLReedy21
Baja Godfather Joined: Nov/30/2008 Location: Marysville, OH Status: Offline Points: 736 |
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I wouldn't call swingarms out of it, you just have to pick your battles. Both races we went to last year (Bham & KS) would have been excellent opportunities to apply a swingarm. Neither was super rough on suspensions and if anything would have been good places to have the extra maneuverability. Plus if you apply the TTU tractor tires then your traction improves tremendously too.
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-Chris Reedy
TTU Alumni Fourwheeler Drawer "Quick with the hammer, slow with the brain." |
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Soccerdan7
Organizer Joined: Sep/22/2010 Location: CA Status: Offline Points: 780 |
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I think I'll revise my statement to agree with Chris on this one although it is hard to design a swingarm car for a mild suspension course since you usually don't know that until you get there (or at least until the spring when pictures begin to surface).
Water races are a whole 'nother animal, and a swingarm with hefty tires can definitely do well there.
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Danny
Cornell (fall'07 - spring'12) Former Captain / MEng / that guy with all the carbon 10 races, 7 top ten's, 2 overall wins |
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Akron 1998 to 2004
Welding Master Thread Hijack Champion Joined: Jan/20/2011 Location: WA Status: Offline Points: 327 |
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I'm glad you changed your mind.........I started having flash backs to previous threads. I'll just go back to perfecting my personal toy.
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Soccerdan7
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I'm glad you tamed that fury. And I would be happy to race your swingarm with our new 2012 car anyday.
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Danny
Cornell (fall'07 - spring'12) Former Captain / MEng / that guy with all the carbon 10 races, 7 top ten's, 2 overall wins |
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Akron 1998 to 2004
Welding Master Thread Hijack Champion Joined: Jan/20/2011 Location: WA Status: Offline Points: 327 |
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Ok, Sunday May 6th, 2012. Just compete in Baja SAE Oregon, if your car is still running afterwards I'll gladly go 10 round of Washougal MX Park with you. Assuming the track is available and my wife doesn't go into labor etc.
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Soccerdan7
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sadly we are not going to oregon this year since it is too far and we don't have the budget for 3 competitions
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Danny
Cornell (fall'07 - spring'12) Former Captain / MEng / that guy with all the carbon 10 races, 7 top ten's, 2 overall wins |
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collinskl1
Baja Godfather Joined: Jan/21/2009 Location: Saginaw, MI Status: Offline Points: 1056 |
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Kyle Collins
Lipscomb University Alumni 2x Project Manager Nexteer Automotive Product Engineer, Electronic Power Steering ... and the 8th simple machine: a bigger hammer. |
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Soccerdan7
Organizer Joined: Sep/22/2010 Location: CA Status: Offline Points: 780 |
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Contrary to popular belief carbon fiber is not a valid currency. It's easy getting free material and other sponsorships for parts / labor, but its harder and harder to find money.
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Danny
Cornell (fall'07 - spring'12) Former Captain / MEng / that guy with all the carbon 10 races, 7 top ten's, 2 overall wins |
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collinskl1
Baja Godfather Joined: Jan/21/2009 Location: Saginaw, MI Status: Offline Points: 1056 |
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I completely understand, but I still like pretending it's as expensive and mystical as depleted uranium... |
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Kyle Collins
Lipscomb University Alumni 2x Project Manager Nexteer Automotive Product Engineer, Electronic Power Steering ... and the 8th simple machine: a bigger hammer. |
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sandres913
Welding Master Joined: Aug/17/2011 Status: Offline Points: 216 |
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I hear ya on that one man! Especially when your sponsors offer discounts and you tell them you have no money to use the discounts on.... Would it be un-wise to sell the carbon fiber that you don't use? Our team isn't looking for some, but there might be someone else (baja or otherwise) that's looking to pick some up. Either way, it'd be more money in your account than you had before!
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Soccerdan7
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We've thought about that but in addition to being illegal because the donated material is a tax writeoff, our sponsor would be really pissed if they ever found out and then we lose the free carbon as well.
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Danny
Cornell (fall'07 - spring'12) Former Captain / MEng / that guy with all the carbon 10 races, 7 top ten's, 2 overall wins |
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sandres913
Welding Master Joined: Aug/17/2011 Status: Offline Points: 216 |
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Right, right, understandable
Well, best of luck at any rate!
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jeiB
Baja Godfather Joined: Jul/17/2009 Location: Montreal Status: Offline Points: 604 |
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Just like you can't sell Polaris parts that you bought at cost.
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Jeremie B.
McGill Baja Racing 2009-2011 Captain minibaja.mcgill.ca |
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T_Patn
Welding Master Joined: Jun/12/2010 Location: Long Beach Status: Offline Points: 108 |
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as of this morning, hope to have done by end of next weekend
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Tyler Patten
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ErikHardy
Baja Godfather Joined: Apr/12/2010 Location: Hood, Flint, MI Status: Offline Points: 939 |
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steering rack?
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T_Patn
Welding Master Joined: Jun/12/2010 Location: Long Beach Status: Offline Points: 108 |
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what about it?
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Tyler Patten
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ErikHardy
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Crooked? Or is it just the picture
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T_Patn
Welding Master Joined: Jun/12/2010 Location: Long Beach Status: Offline Points: 108 |
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it wasn't completely seated, it is slightly tho one of the bolts tilted during welding. just like .5 deg.
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Tyler Patten
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jeiB
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+/- 1 baja right?
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Jeremie B.
McGill Baja Racing 2009-2011 Captain minibaja.mcgill.ca |
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T_Patn
Welding Master Joined: Jun/12/2010 Location: Long Beach Status: Offline Points: 108 |
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yup
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Tyler Patten
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abenn
Milling Master Joined: Mar/15/2010 Location: Boston, MA Status: Offline Points: 70 |
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Got out testing with the new front and rear suspension this weekend. Unfortunately we had to rely on the old car to get the new one out of the pits again.
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Andy Benn
Northeastern University Baja SAE http://www.facebook.com/nubaja http://www.numotorsports.com |
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Pedro UFPBaja
Baja Godfather Joined: Mar/03/2010 Location: Brazil Status: Offline Points: 886 |
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Ready for Baja SAE Brazil 2012 next weekend
Edited by Pedro UFPBaja - Mar/19/2012 at 10:09pm |
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jeiB
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Pedro, what is new/different?
From what I can remember, the tires/wheels are much larger and the car has a much higher ground clearance. Nice beast though, good luck! |
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Jeremie B.
McGill Baja Racing 2009-2011 Captain minibaja.mcgill.ca |
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Pedro UFPBaja
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New tires(23x7)
New front suspension Different cvt setup Half firewall (due the new brazilian rules) several small adjustments
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collinskl1
Baja Godfather Joined: Jan/21/2009 Location: Saginaw, MI Status: Offline Points: 1056 |
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I like the dark blue interpretation of the Gulf paint scheme!
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Kyle Collins
Lipscomb University Alumni 2x Project Manager Nexteer Automotive Product Engineer, Electronic Power Steering ... and the 8th simple machine: a bigger hammer. |
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Pedro UFPBaja
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Edited by Pedro UFPBaja - Mar/19/2012 at 10:09pm |
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frinesi2
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Gulf McLaren F1?
I wonder what the chances are of those half firewalls making their way over to the North American rule set . . . Edited by frinesi2 - Mar/19/2012 at 9:30pm |
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Pedro UFPBaja
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almost, just missing paint the wheels.
In 2012 Brazilian rules is no longer the mandatory the firewall extend from LC to LC of the RRH.
Now is just mandatory the spill-proof enclosure for refuering be completely separate from the engine compartment and the pilot compartment, just like mid-engine cars.
Edited by Pedro UFPBaja - Mar/20/2012 at 3:27pm |
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T_Patn
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did a test of the turning radius even with the slightly messed up set up and holy the new set up is giving about a 7 foot turning radius. I will try and post a pic of the gearbox this weekend after i pick it up tom from the cnc
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Tyler Patten
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T_Patn
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Tyler Patten
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otto
Milling Master Joined: Oct/06/2011 Location: OR & Colorado Status: Offline Points: 100 |
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putting the "box" back in gearbox i see
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Cornell Baja 2008-2012, suspension stuff
Oregon State 2012+, saw chain & some more baja |
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T_Patn
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if we had had the money for the comet it would have been more round
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Tyler Patten
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NJITCaptain
Bolt Sorter Joined: Mar/02/2012 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 28 |
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10 more days until Auburn 2012. http://www.youtube.com/embed/l-N0qz9jytg
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Josen D. Llave
Norton Engineering Consultants New Jersey Institute of Technology Society of Automotive Engineers Iraq & Afghanistan Veterans of America http://josen.webs.com/saebaja.pdf |
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otto
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Nice work, I'm getting excited for Alabama... seeing all the other teams. Now if only these design posters would finish themselves!
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Cornell Baja 2008-2012, suspension stuff
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NJITCaptain
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Thanks for reminding me! I have to make mine @.@
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Josen D. Llave
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NJITCaptain
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Josen D. Llave
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collinskl1
Baja Godfather Joined: Jan/21/2009 Location: Saginaw, MI Status: Offline Points: 1056 |
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Nice looking car! I never get sick of looking at Elkas. Why the lights?
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Kyle Collins
Lipscomb University Alumni 2x Project Manager Nexteer Automotive Product Engineer, Electronic Power Steering ... and the 8th simple machine: a bigger hammer. |
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ErikHardy
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Well done! Forewarning, you might want to take the lights off for competition. The only reason I say that is just in case you roll, the lights might break off. Per rules, they would have to be put back on if they get picky about it.
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