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Tony Rivera
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So over the past week, all of the currently active Arizona SAE Baja chapters organized a quick little race in the Desert to test out last years cars, give the new members something to be excited about, and of course to do some important driver training in a relaxed, yet competitive atmosphere.
Friday afternoon I headed out into the desert with a print out from Google earth, and a rough idea of the course I wanted to layout. Two hours later (in the dark and after busting a tie rod due to the lack of headlights in said darkness), I had laid out a 0.8 mile course that included loose sand washes, rutted out hill climbs, berms, high speed sections, and an optiona short cut that ivluded tires and logs. The next morning after the teams had arrived (ASU-Tempe, ASU-Polytechnic, and U of A with two cars), we went through a quick drivers meeting, and walked the course, getting volunteer course workers in key places (Since this was a "Non-Organized" event, we couldn't really keep other OHV's from entering the course). The two hour endurance began at 9:00, with a four car wide holeshot race. After 2 laps ASU-Tempe was out of the race after a gearbox bearing decided to remove itself from the gearbox. Outside of that, ASU-Poly had one rollover and one broken tie rod, and U of A ran both cars flawlessly for entirety of the two hour race. Now for the part you all want, some pictures (Hopefully the Facebook links will work) http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.422000364522686.95472.322325761156814&type=1 http://www.facebook.com/pages/ASU-SAE-Baja-Team/142728709080379 http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10151178635137416.465648.81118667415&type=1 Hopefully we can get all of our pictures in one place soon, but enjoy the pics in the mean time! |
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Tony Rivera
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Tony Rivera
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Here is a little video that mostly talks about the team, but does include some footage from the race as well
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Tony Rivera
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Tony Rivera
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If we get this to happen again this year who is interested in coming out?
Here are some pics from last year https://www.flickr.com/photos/superdupercolin/sets/72157644021373544/ |
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Tony Rivera
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Aztec Warrior
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Depending on the dates, San Diego State will be there with anywhere from one to three cars. You have a date in mind yet? And maybe a location?
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Richie_Dagger
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If it's close enough to Vegas and doesn't conflict with school we might go out.
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Tony Rivera
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Right now I am thinking mid-late October. Locations will be either:
Thunder Rock Off Road Ranch in Congress AZ https://www.facebook.com/pages/Thunder-Rock-Off-Road-Ranch-LLC/171026852989925 or MC Motorsports Park in Tucson AZ http://www.ridemcmp.com/wp/ or Gila Bend AZ http://www.rsdracing.com/gilabend.htm or Just East of Phoenix in the desert |
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Tony Rivera
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Richie_Dagger
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Thunder Rock would definitely be idea for us since it is the closest for us. Our 13/14 is mostly pieced back together so it should be ready by then
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Matthew Ware
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UA will be there for sure. Any place works for us! We will have 1-3 cars. Is there any news on if NAU is going to go this year? Last year was the first time they competed in a while, but it would be fun to see them compete!
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Tony Rivera
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If you guys have any contacts with anyone on the team please reach out to them I would love to have them come out
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Tony Rivera
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Tony Rivera
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Bump for interest? Right now I am leaning towards thunder rock mid-late October. If someone has a date that works for them, throw it out.
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Tony Rivera
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Richie_Dagger
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Saturday the 18th of October works well for us. We have members out of town for a conference the next weekend.
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Robert Miller
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The 18th works for the U of A. We should have two cars there like last year.
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Matthew Ware
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Since we look like we may have 5+ cars, are we going to do a mini-tech inspection? I know the last few years haven't really done anything. It would be good for new members to at least get used to how it works.
I have a contact, and have sent an email to the NAU program this morning.
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Richie_Dagger
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I hope not. We tore apart our only car after Illinois and converted it from manual to CVT to get some data and is now pretty illegal in regards to power train guards. But we could probably have some simple chain guards done by then.
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Matthew Ware
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We dont need to go through all the rules, but the cars should be safe. We do some things like that too, like removing the spill guards (because they tend to cause more spilling then they prevent because of how awkward filling becomes).
But I think we should at least check harnesses, kill switches, frames, maybe some sort of powertrain guards etc. Thoughts? |
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Tony Rivera
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Harnesses, kill switches, helmets, wrist restraints, and frames will always be inspected.
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Tony Rivera
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Tony Rivera
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BTW, I just spoke with the owner of Thunder Rock Off Road Ranch, and they unfortunately will not be open/available that weekend. Judging on the number of cars, and people, I am currently leaning towards the Gila Bend location.
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Tony Rivera
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turbon2o
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Hi guys, I am the President for SAE at NAU. We are more than happy to attend this coming race. We have our vehicle form last year. Is it for sure going to be the 18th as of now? And we need our cvt covers correct? Our currently will have to be reconstructed. We are open to where ever for location. Thank you for inviting us this year.
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Tony Rivera
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As of now, it is set for the 18th, and yes, please have all guards in place to the best of your ability
We are excited at the idea of having you guys out there! |
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Tony Rivera
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turbon2o
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We are excited to be there. Are we currently looking at the gila bend area for the race?
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Richie_Dagger
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Any idea of a general time when the race would start?
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Tony Rivera
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Since it is the desert, we usually like to start fairly early, but we have never had a team travel that far. How early do you think you guys could be there and ready?
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Tony Rivera
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turbon2o
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The location is going to be Gila Bend correct?
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Tony Rivera
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It looks that way as of now.
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Tony Rivera
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Tony Rivera
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Update. As of now this is the list of teams attending
Confirmed: ASU Poly - 2 cars U of A - 2 cars NAU - 1 car UNLV - 1 car Unconfirmed: ASU Tempe - 1 car SDSU - 1-3 cars Location will be at Gila Bend, with Tech/Course walk beginning around 8AM, Hopefully we can have a flag drop around 9AM If anyone else is interested in attending, or has any other questions, please let me know ASAP Edited by Tony Rivera - Oct/02/2014 at 1:38pm |
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Tony Rivera
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turbon2o
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NAU will be there. We will have one car.
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Tony Rivera
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Sorry about that. Updated
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Tony Rivera
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Taylor355
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So for teams arriving the night before the race what is the situation? Will we have access to the facility the night before to set up and get our cars ready and possibly camp there overnight?
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Hoople
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Hi. UNlV SAE president here. We were planning on arriving the night before and camping out but the only official campsite Im aware of is 13 miles away from Gila Bend. It's called Painted Rock Petroglyph Site. If there's some place closer besides the side of the road we would like to know about it.
Tony, we need more details please and make that ASAP! I'm trying to plan this trip for our members but have no info to give them at all besides the race is in Gila Bend. Where is the race site at? Can we camp there? How strict will tech be? If I don't get enough info soon, UNLV may not be able to make it. We would really like to be there so help us out! Thanks! |
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Tony Rivera
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Sorry for the lack of info. My computer at work crashed, and I tried to use my wifes computer with very little success.
Here is a picture of the course(s) We will have three options: 1) Run course in green only. This course is "easy". It is also very compact with great visibility of course. Course is 3 miles long. 2) Run Course in Red only. This course is much more difficult (Whoops, sand washes, silt!). Much more spread out. Course is 2.75 miles long 3) Run Both Red and Green courses combined (at yellow sections). The major downside to this is that it will include crossing a road. The road has traffic of ~1 car/hr. We would need to set up a flag man with a stop on each lap. Combined course should be ~6 miles long. Because this is just desert, we have historically camped on site. |
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Tony Rivera
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turbon2o
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Can we get an acttual location. We have never been there. Or directions?
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Tony Rivera
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From Las Vegas/Flagstaff
(assuming you know how to get to Gila Bend):
Take AZ-85 S/Phoenix Bypass Slight right onto Phoenix Bypass Route (going into Gila
Bend). Go 1 mile Continue onto E Pima St (the main street running through
Gila Bend). Go 1.1 miles Turn Left onto S Martin Ave (It sneaks up on you, as it is
hidden behind a large building). Go 0.4 miles Slight Right on private looking road to keep going south
(You are trying to go under the highway). Go 0.75 miles After going under the highway, you are there. Historically
we have camped on the left side of the road. From Tucson/I-8: Take exit 119 toward AZ-85/I-10, then go 1.4 miles Turn left onto E South Main Street Continue onto S Main Street, and go 1.5 miles. The road will
then want you to go right, but there is a private looking road off to the left,
take that (you are trying to go under the highway) After going under the highway, you are there. Historically
we have camped on the left side of the road. From Phoenix/I-10: Take exit 164 AZ-347 toward Maricopa. Go 14.7 miles Turn Right onto AZ-238W/W Smith Enke Rd. Go 39.2 miles Continue onto Phoenix Bypass Route. Go 1.1 miles Continue onto E Pima St (the main street running through
Gila Bend). Go 1.1 miles Turn Left onto S Martin Ave (It sneaks up on you, as it is
hidden behind a large building). Go 0.4 miles Slight Right on private looking road to keep going south
(You are trying to go under the highway). Go 0.75 miles After going under the highway, you are there. Historically
we have camped on the left side of the road. If you have any questions, feel free to call me.
602-295-955seven |
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Tony Rivera
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Is everyone planning on getting there on Friday and camping out where Tony suggests? We'll probably get there round 6pm on Friday because a lot of us have a morning class so we won't be leaving Vegas til like 12-1.
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Tony Rivera
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Hoople, Are you going to be part of the design review on Friday? I am going to be up there at UNLV as part of the design review panel. As of right now there is about an 85% chance I will be driving a Rally Fighter back. It would be nice if we could caravan down. According to Mr. O'Toole the design review should be done around 11:45. I am good to go after that.
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Tony Rivera
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Yep! I'll be there. We should definitely caravan! I wasn't sure if you had other plans after the class. I remember now that Otoole mentioned about the Rally Fighter. We'll try to get everything loaded before the class so we can leave as soon as possible.
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Sorry for the late notice.
ASU- Tempe will be there with one car. |
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It's a shame you will be stuck with a 4cyl Tacoma hauling a baja in the back if that is the case. What is the plan for pulling out broken cars and such? Seems like a big track with few course workers. I can retrieve cars with my Tacoma but it's slow going with my suspension... Also, if anyone could bring a spare 200mm CVTech belt that would be helpful. I finished dremeling smooth a big 'ol gouge in our P90 primary and am hoping that doesn't kill the belt. I have a CVTech primary as a spare but no belt.
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Tony Rivera
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Another Update.
Teams Attending, and number of cars: Confirmed: ASU Poly - 3 cars U of A - 2 cars NAU - 1 car UNLV - 1 car ASU Tempe - 1 car As far as recovery vehicles, this is what we have confirmed: Rally Fighter Razr Jeep Cherokee Tacoma (Richie's) My old 2010 Baja Car (Maybe) As far as people go, U of A usually brings out about 20 people, so we usually have enough course workers. Richie, don't worry about me, I will keep myself entertained! |
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Tony Rivera
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U of A here!
We are bringing three cars as of right now. We are leaving Tucson Friday evening around 7:30 since there is an exam in the afternoon for many of our members. There are also some parents who would like to attend and will be bringing various off-road vehicles that can be used for recovery if there is not enough. We should also have enough people to stand at various locations around the course and possibly at the road if we choose to use the full course. Everyone is really looking forward to this weekend for sure.
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I know some families have already volunteered from UA as recovery crew. They both have Arctic Cat Wildcats which should have no issue towing people in. They are also going to camp and go out before us around 630pm.
I think that maybe for the first hour or so we just run course 1, easier for people to watch and recovery crews. Then if most the teams are still going strong we can open up the tougher section as well to make it harder. |
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Tony Rivera
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Glad to hear we will have more recovery vehicles available as needed.
I went out yesterday at lunch to make sure everything looked good, and it does. Just a reminder, I will be looking for appropriate safety gear for EVERYONE. If you are on recovery in a UTV, please have helmet, goggles, gloves, etc. If you are driving a Baja Car, Helmet, Goggles, Gloves, Pants, Fire Resistant Upper Garment, Wrist Restraints, neck brace. Also, please make sure you have your fire extinguishers charged and mounted, and make sure to bring your spares. I will want those near the fueling pits.
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Tony Rivera
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Tony Rivera
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Race went off great. Course was a little too easy in my opinion, but at one point, 5 of the 8 cars were in the pits getting fixed, so I guess it wasn't that easy. Here are some photos to keep it entertaining, If anyone else has more, please feel free to post them
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10152765925962416.1073741842.81118667415&type=1 https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=784266568296062&set=vb.322325761156814&type=2&theater https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=784266211629431&set=vb.322325761156814&type=2&theater Once again, thank you to everyone who came out, and everyone who helped make it go so smoothly. I can't wait to do it again!
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Tony Rivera
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Tony Rivera
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Btt. Who all is interested in coming this year? Depending on how many cars we have interested, there is a chance that we might work with AZOP (http://www.arizonaoffroadpromotions.com/) to jump in on one of their races
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Tony Rivera
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Richie_Dagger
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Is it going to be around October again?
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Tony Rivera
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Either October or November
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Tony Rivera
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ASU Poly will be there with three cars, just let us know when and where.
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UTEP would be interested, depending on logistics.
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Tony Rivera
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As mentioned before, depending on the number of cars, we might be jumping in on an AZOP race. Right now, that would be the Prescott Valley race (October 24-25), that will go through downtown Prescott Valley, and include a 4 mile loop that includes jumps and an endurocross section.
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Tony Rivera
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Sounds awesome. A chance to display the cars in downtown could be a good fundraiser or way to get sponsorship for teams too.
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That date is really close to the Baja 1000, which tends to be a pretty busy time at work. But if this turns into an actual race, I'll do all I can to bring a car (stock engine). If this is part of another orgs. desert race, I would assume it will be acceptable to stop on course to make repairs and/or change a tire? Let's make it happen!
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