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   <title>Design Discussion : sae ratings for tail lights</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://forums.bajasae.net/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=547" rel="nofollow">geofflee</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> sae ratings for tail lights<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 2012-Feb-06 at 8:08am<br /><br />I'm not sure about the SAE rating system for STIP, but if you need rated brake lights you can check out&nbsp;<div><a href="http://www.commandelectr&#111;nics.com/" target="_blank">http://www.commandelectronics.com</a></div><div>They've got a whole bunch of SAE approved brake lights, and they have round ones but you'll have to check for ones that are only 4''</div>]]>
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   <title>Sale / Trade : 4&quot; Round Brake Light</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://forums.bajasae.net/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=61" rel="nofollow">collinskl1</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4&quot; Round Brake Light<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 2012-Feb-06 at 6:53am<br /><br />Everyone knows the more lights on your rig, the faster it pulls up hills...&nbsp; ]]>
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   <pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2012 06:53:19 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Lounge : This is why we can&#039;t have nice things...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://forums.bajasae.net/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=238" rel="nofollow">YonkersBaja</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> This is why we can&#039;t have nice things...<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 2012-Feb-04 at 8:05pm<br /><br /><img src="http://forums.bajasae.net/forum/smileys/smiley32.gif" border="0" alt="Clap" title="Clap" /> I wish we had a drill press like that when I had to do them.]]>
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   <pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2012 20:05:51 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Design Discussion : How Seat Bottom Is Defined</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://forums.bajasae.net/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=788" rel="nofollow">UofAGeek</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> How Seat Bottom Is Defined<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 2012-Feb-03 at 10:43pm<br /><br />Here is the response from the rules committee<div><br></div><div>"<span style=": rgba255, 255, 255, 0.917969; color: rgb34, 34, 34; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal; ">Hi Andrew,</span></div><div style="color: rgb34, 34, 34; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal; : rgba255, 255, 255, 0.917969; ">We normally try to compress the seat foam as much as possible with the template when placing it in the car. We will also measure to make sure you have proper helmet clearance with any of your drivers seated in the car with the helmet on.</div><div style="color: rgb34, 34, 34; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal; : rgba255, 255, 255, 0.917969; "><br></div><div style="color: rgb34, 34, 34; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal; : rgba255, 255, 255, 0.917969; ">I hope this helps,</div><div style="color: rgb34, 34, 34; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: normal; : rgba255, 255, 255, 0.917969; ">Baja SAE Technical Inspector"</div>]]>
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   <pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 22:43:45 +0000</pubDate>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://forums.bajasae.net/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=401" rel="nofollow">T_Patn</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> This is why we can&#039;t have nice things...<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 2012-Feb-03 at 10:35pm<br /><br />i was about to ask if anyone else saw the driver restraint only this year. Emailed the rules committee and when they said that was it i was very pleased&nbsp;<img src="http://forums.bajasae.net/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif" border="0" alt="Big smile" title="Big smile" />]]>
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   <pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 22:35:44 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Sale / Trade : 4&quot; Round Brake Light</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://forums.bajasae.net/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=88" rel="nofollow">johnpate01</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 4&quot; Round Brake Light<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 2012-Feb-03 at 5:07pm<br /><br /><p>Keep an eye out for the ID/SAE numbers and letters on the lens. &nbsp;Many will have either J, K, or U somewhere in there.</p><p>A few weeks ago a had a semi behind me with HIDs. &nbsp;That was an interesting experience in my rearview mirror.&nbsp;</p>]]>
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   <pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 17:07:53 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title>Design Discussion : How Seat Bottom Is Defined</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://forums.bajasae.net/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=355" rel="nofollow">ErikHardy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> How Seat Bottom Is Defined<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 2012-Feb-03 at 2:33pm<br /><br />What momma don't know woun't hurt her<img src="http://forums.bajasae.net/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0" alt="Wink" title="Wink" /><div>They are picky on the height!</div>]]>
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   <pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 14:33:06 +0000</pubDate>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://forums.bajasae.net/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=788" rel="nofollow">UofAGeek</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> How Seat Bottom Is Defined<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 2012-Feb-03 at 2:09pm<br /><br />Exactly p.Lewis, the rules make it so that if you have a large and small driver on your team (or are designing to the 5th and 95th percentile) you must have seat adjustments or foam. I was thinking about running through tech without the seat foam but I think it would then be 'illegal' to place it in there before the race. It seems to be a gray area to me because the driver's safety is maintained, it just might not pass tech if the wooden template is only placed on top of the foam.&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>To answer collin's 1st question, no...and that bothers many of us on the team but we are not the ones holding it up. In order for our car will pass tech inspection, I would have to change the shape of the RRH, essentially making it 29" wide 4" higher.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Do they measure the vertical clearance also when using the wooden template? Because if so that would raise the height of our vehicle 4 inches as well.</div>]]>
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   <pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 14:09:24 +0000</pubDate>
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restraint systems must meet the followingguidelines.</p><p ="ms&#111;normal"=""><b>EXAMPLE: </b>A team using a custom hub with an OEM rotormust meet the locking requirements, but a team using an OEM hub and OEM rotorwould be exempt.</p><p ="ms&#111;normal"="" style="text-align:center" align="center"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight:  normal"><span style="color:red">2008<span style="mso-bidi-font-weight:bold"></span></span></b></p><p ="ms&#111;normal"="">All threaded fasteners in the engine, steering, suspension,braking (any calipers, all master cylinder mounting, and non OEM rotors &amp;hub systems), accelerator and driver restraint systems must meet the followingguidelines.</p><p ="ms&#111;normal"=""><b>EXAMPLE: </b>A team using a custom hub with an OEM rotormust meet the locking requirements, but a team using an OEM hub and OEM rotorwould be exempt.</p><p ="ms&#111;normal"="" style="text-align:center" align="center"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight:  normal"><span style="color:red">2007</span></b></p><p ="ms&#111;normal"="">All threaded fasteners in the steering, suspension (lug nutsare exempt), braking (caliper &amp; master cylinder mounting and non OEM rotors&amp; hub system) accelerator and driver restraint systems must meet thefollowing guidelines.</p><p ="ms&#111;normal"=""><b>EXAMPLE: </b>A team using a custom hub with an OEM rotormust meet the locking requirements, but a team using an OEM hub and OEM rotorwould be exempt.</p><p ="ms&#111;normal"="" style="text-align:center" align="center"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight:  normal"><span style="color:red">2006</span></b></p><p ="ms&#111;normal"="">All threaded fasteners in the steering, suspension, braking(caliper &amp; master cylinder mounting<br>and non OEM rotors &amp; hubs system) and driver restraint systems must becaptive.</p><p ="ms&#111;normal"=""><b>EXAMPLE: </b>A team using a custom hub with an OEM rotormust meet the locking requirements, but a team using an OEM hub and OEM rotorwould be exempt.</p><p ="ms&#111;normal"="" style="text-align:center" align="center"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight:  normal"><span style="color:red">2006</span></b></p><p ="ms&#111;normal"="">All threaded fasteners in the steering, suspension, braking(caliper &amp; master cylinder mounting<br>and non OEM rotors&amp;hubs system) and driver restraint systems must becaptive.</p><p ="ms&#111;normal"=""><b>EXAMPLE: </b>A team using a custom hub with an OEM rotormust meet the locking requirements, but a team using an OEM hub and OEM rotorwould be exempt.</p><p ="ms&#111;normal"="" style="text-align:center" align="center"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight:  normal"><span style="color:red">2005</span></b></p><p ="ms&#111;normal"="">All threaded fasteners in the steering, suspension, braking(caliper &amp; master cylinder mounting<br>and non OEM rotors&amp;hubs system) and driver restraint systems must becaptive.</p><p ="ms&#111;normal"=""><b>EXAMPLE: </b>A team using a custom hub with an OEM rotormust meet the locking requirements, but a team using an OEM hub and OEM rotorwould be exempt.</p><p ="ms&#111;normal"="" style="text-align:center" align="center"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight:  normal"><span style="color:red">2004</span></b></p><p ="ms&#111;normal"="">All threaded fasteners in the steering, suspension, braking,and driver restraint systems must be captive.</p><p ="ms&#111;normal"="" style="text-align:center" align="center"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight:  normal"><span style="color:red">2003</span></b></p><p ="ms&#111;normal"="">All threaded fasteners in the steering, suspension, braking,and driver restraint systems must be captive.</p><p ="ms&#111;normal"="" style="text-align:center" align="center"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight:  normal"><span style="color:red">2002</span></b></p><p ="ms&#111;normal"="">All threaded fasteners in the steering, suspension, braking,and driver restraint systems must be captive.</p><p ="ms&#111;normal"="" style="text-align:center" align="center"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight:  normal"><span style="color:red">2001</span></b></p><p ="ms&#111;normal"="">All threaded fasteners in the steering, suspension, braking,and driver restraint systems must be captive.</p><p ="ms&#111;normal"="">-----<br></p><p ="ms&#111;normal"="">Now back to your regularly scheduled thread. <img src="http://forums.bajasae.net/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0" alt="Wink" title="Wink" /><br></p><span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by EAD Motorsports - 2012-Feb-03 at 11:49am</span>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://forums.bajasae.net/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=151" rel="nofollow">EAD Motorsports</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> This is why we can&#039;t have nice things...<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 2012-Feb-03 at 11:41am<br /><br />2001-2004: All fasteners in the&nbsp;steering, suspension, braking, and driver restraint systems must be captive.<br><br>2005-2006: OEM rotor&amp;hub systems are now exempt. <br>Team using OEM hub and OEM rotor would be exempt.<br>Team using custom hub and OEM rotor would NOT be exempt.<br><br>2007: Accelerator system is now must be captive. Lug nuts are now exempt. <br><br>2008: Lug nuts are no longer exempt. Engine required to be captive.<br><br>2009: Now "all fasteners" instead of "threaded fasteners" (Applies to things like e-clip rotor fasteners, etc). "Accelerator" changed to "throttle pedal".<br><br>2010-2011: Rotors and bias bars now the only parts exempt in the braking system. (OEM rotor&amp;hub exemption now extinct) <br><br>2012: Radical change. Only driver restraint system required to be captive. <br><br>---<br><br>So, to answer the original question, caliper fasteners have been required to be captive since at least 2001. <br>]]>
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